4 Mk. Please record original details from right side of butt socket (left side for carbines) below the royal cypher (crown, V.R. 4 Mk I, because the Lithgow Small Arms Factory was producing the SMLE Mk III. 4 action was similar to the Mk VI, but stronger and most importantly, easier to mass-produce. Talens, Martien. Lee Enfield SMLE No1 Mk1 .303 Serial Number 1 - YUP Serial number 1 Made in the LSA ( london small arms factory ) this is rifle number 1 a very rare find and a jewel in my collection, here. The Australian military were not permitted to manufacture the No. I suggest if you bolt has not been proofed with the rifle; get it checked for fit and a new proof. I (T) chambered in .303 British. 5. Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses [77] The end result was the Charlton Automatic Rifle (based on the obsolete MLE), [78] which was issued to Home Guard units in NZ from 1942. The Ekins Automatic Rifle was one of the numerous attempts to convert a LeeEnfield SMLE to an automatic rifle. I (T) Serial number 0C820 made by Stevens-Savage as a No. MAGAZINE LEE RIFLES & CARBINES Lee-Metford Lee-Enfield Note: Charger loaders and conversions are family. Are you interested in CNo7 serial numbers as well? Any idea? Adopted by the British Army at the turn of the century, the .303 Lee-Enfield saw service in both world wars and countless conflicts around the world. Standard Mk VII .303 inch cartridge for LeeEnfield rifle. Experiments with smokeless powder in the existing LeeMetford cartridge seemed at first to be a simple upgrade, but the greater heat and pressure generated by the new smokeless powder wore away the shallow, rounded, Metford rifling after approximately 6000 rounds. TonyE R.I.P. [48] The No. [42] It was produced only in North America, by Small Arms Limited at Long Branch in Canada and Stevens-Savage Firearms in the USA. No5 rifles (Jungle Carbines) serial numbers consisted of a sequential 4 digit number starting with 0001 running through to 9999, the numbers were preceded by a letter prefix. 7 and No. for the rest of the story you need to post some really good photos , there is a question or two that jump to mind but ill leave those to the more knowledgeable among us . That needs inspecting for proper fit at the recoil lugs. Short Magazine Lee Enfield In the early 1930s, a batch of 2,500 No. #9. It is essentially an updated N0. Identifying Serial Numbers Hi guys, A friend just inherited his father's Lee Enfield and doesn't know anything about it. Magazine cut-off on an SMLE Mk III rifle. Police forces in both the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu continue to operate and maintain stocks of No.4 rifles. It looks more of a case of someone trying to make it out to be something it is not. [23] The barrel was now halfway in length between the original long rifle and the carbine, at 25.2 inches (640 mm). Possible, sure. 4 rifles to 7.6251mm NATO as part of a programme to retain the LeeEnfield as a reserve weapon. By the late 1930s, the need for new rifles grew and the Rifle, No. Indian Merchant Service who died 30/12/1915 BOMBAY 1914-1918 MEMORIAL, MUMBAI India. Attempts were made to find a cooler-burning propellant, but further trials were halted in 1914 by the onset of World War I. All 7 of my Lee Enfields (2 SMLE No. The LeeEnfield series is very popular for service rifle shooting competitions in the UK and Australia due to the prohibitions on the legal ownership of semi-automatic centrefire rifles in Great Britain and restrictions on the legal ownership of semi-automatic centrefire rifles in Australia. If it has the cutout toward the barrel knox,after 1942. good point on the longbranch but the maltby not so much , interesting thought line englishman - i know peter has been a wealth of knowledge and much life experience. I A (a transitional model), Mk. It is one of 75,000. This updated and expanded edition also has a ready model identification chapter and colour plates. We cannot say for certain it is a year, nor can we say for certain much of anything else about that number. With an S prefix, this was about the 196,800th rifle produced by RSAF Enfield in 1916. Originally, the concept of a detachable magazine was opposed in some British Army circles, as some feared that the private soldier might be likely to lose the magazine during field campaigns. A conversion specification of No.1 rifles to L59A2 Drill Purpose was also prepared but was abandoned due to the greater difficulty of machining involved and the negligible numbers still in the hands of cadet units. yah I dont have a clue ether. These stand for 'Standard Small Arms' and 'National Rifle Factory', respectively. 4 Mk 2 (Arabic numerals replaced Roman numerals for official designations in 1944) rifle, a refined and improved No. Brunei: used by the Royal Brunei Armed Forces and Royal Brunei Police Force during the early days. 3. Other Equipment. [25][27][28][29] The windage adjustment of the rear sight was also dispensed with, and the cocking piece was changed from a round knob to a serrated slab. 9 blade bayonets were issued for use with the No. Early models of the LeeMetford and LeeEnfield even used a short length of chain to secure the magazine to the rifle. All SNs appear to be matching but the original serial was crossed out and reserialized most likely when it reentered service during WWII. Such rifles would have 5-digit serial numbers with either an "E" or an "F" serial number prefix, and the serial number would be stamped on the rear of the bolt handle and on the bottom of the fore-end, as well as on the receiver ring. 24 Oct 2008. Many surplus LeeEnfield rifles were sold in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, the United Kingdom and the United States after the Second World War, and a fair number have been 'sporterised', having had the front furniture reduced or removed and a scope fitted so that they resemble a bolt-action sporting rifle. Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History, George Crile, 2003, Grove/Atlantic. The LeeEnfield rifle was derived from the earlier LeeMetford, a mechanically similar black-powder rifle, which combined James Paris Lee's rear-locking bolt system that had a barrel featuring rifling designed by William Ellis Metford. The wooden cheek-piece was attached with two screws. The 2A/2A1 rifles are not conversions of .303 calibre SMLE Mk III* rifles. 1 Mk V), adopted a new receiver-mounted aperture sighting system, which moved the rear sight from its former position on the barrel. [73] 303/25 calibre sporterised SMLEs are very common in Australia today, although ammunition for them has been very scarce since the 1980s. The manufacturer's names found on the MLE, CLLE, and SMLE Mk IMk III* rifles and variants are: Note 1: 'SSA' and 'NRF' markings are sometimes encountered on First World War-dated SMLE Mk III* rifles. The carbine subsequently was down graded to. Serial number- 37978. The year is fake. The No. [62][63] No. [18][19], The LeeEnfield was adapted to fire the .303 British service cartridge, a rimmed, high-powered rifle round. (HT standing for 'Heavy Barrel, Telescopic Sight),[14] which saw service in the Second World War, Korea, and Malaya and was used for Sniper Training through to the late 1970s. Ethiopian Empire: acquired after World War I. Finland: some stored in depots after the Finnish Civil War, Some captured from the Resistance were used by the pro-Nazi French militia Milice franaise, Nazi Germany: some captured No. Canada converted about 1,588 rifles at Small Arms Limited (to the end of 1945) and, in 1946, at Canadian Arsenals Limited. Denmark: used as Rifle M/45E by the Danish brigade in occupied Germany from 1945, eventually replaced by the US M1 rifle as Rifle M/50 in 1950. During the recent civil war in Nepal, the government troops were issued LeeEnfield rifles to fight the Maoist rebels, and the Maoists were also armed with SMLE rifles, amongst other weapons. 32 Mk. De ransel op de rug deel 2. [72] Post-Second World War, SAF Lithgow converted a number of SMLE rifles to commercial sporting rifles- notably the .22 Hornet model- under the 'Slazenger' brand. During the First World War alone, 3.8 million SMLE rifles were produced in the UK by RSAF Enfield, BSA, and LSA.[94]. The stock and fore end was marked with broad white painted bands and the letters 'DP' for easy identification. I blade bayonet which had a large muzzle ring to fit over the flash hider. In the stowed position, a fixed distance aperture battle sight calibrated for 300 yd (274 m) protruded saving further precious seconds when laying the sight to a target. The charger bridge was no longer rounded for easier machining.The iron sight line was redesigned and featured a rear receiver aperture battle sight calibrated for 300 yd (274 m) with an additional ladder aperture sight that could be flipped up and was calibrated for 2001,300 yd (1831,189 m) in 100 yd (91 m) increments. However, one thing is undisputed: Some Enfield No 4 Mk 2 rifles were . Norway: Received from Allied airdrops to the resistance during WW2 and given by Britain to the Norwegian Brigade during the occupation of Germany in 1947. Conversion of rifles to smoothbored guns was carried out in several locations, at various times, for varying reasons. Long before the No. The Holland & Holland conversions usually have the contractor code 'S51' on the underside of the buttstock. Some were later modified with special adaptors to enable magazine loading. 2/1 was also made. These were known as .22 Pattern 1914 Short Rifles[59] during The First World War and Rifle, No. 4 Mk 2 rifle, the British refurbished many of their existing stocks of No. I do remember reading something by Peter Laidler, so forgive me if I dont recall it correctly. [41], During the course of the Second World War, the No. A transitional model the No. It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957. During World War I alone, more than 2,000,000 SMLEs were made at the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock, Middlesex (Reynolds 1960: 180). 4 Mk. An alternative developed during this period was to be used on the No. Visits: 75. I (T). 4 rifle was further simplified for mass-production with the creation of the No. They were supplied to the UK under the Lend-Lease programme during the Second World War. Note 2: Savage-made LeeEnfield No. 5 was first issued to the British 1st Airborne Division and used during their liberation of Denmark and Norway in 1945. In British service, the No. The LeeEnfield takes its name from the designer of the rifle's bolt systemJames Paris Leeand the factory in which it was designedthe Royal Small Arms Factory in Enfield. The No. Returned to Britain in 1952 in exchange for P-17 rifles. Bolt and stock band serial numbers match Bolt head is an#3 It's been sporterized. There are many theories about the serial number ranges included in these contracts, but since they include far more than 50,000 rifles there is no way to tell if a particular rifle was part of the Irish, British or any other contract. such a low number. 4 rifle was heavier than the No. Attachments DSCF2312.jpg 154 KB Views: 1,217 DSCF2313.jpg 63.7 KB Views: 775 [68] Production of this model was 19441946 and a few in 1950 to 1953.[69]. In Jordan, the LeeEnfield was in use with the Police and Gendarmerie until 1971, and with the Armed Forces until 1965. A very collectable rifle indeed, but by no means rare. It was a simplified version of the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield rifle that served the Empire so well in the first unpleasantness. Best to get an appraisal though, and like all things, firearms values fluctuate, more so here in Canada lately. 32 telescope sight to the left side of the receiver. 4 variant, a 'battle sight' was developed that allowed for two set distances of 300 yards and 600 yards to be quickly deployed and was cheaper to produce than the 'ladder sight'. I (T) and No. Bermuda: used by the Bermuda Volunteer Rifle Corps. [14] LeeEnfield rifles are still popular in the region, despite the presence and ready availability of more modern weapons such as the SKS-45, the AKM, the Chinese Type 56 assault rifle, and the AK-74. Third quarter numbers commenced with A85831. The WWII British No.4 MK I* evolved from a long line of Lee-Enfield rifles that were first adopted by the British Army in . But here is the thing, that number on that No 4 is stamped in an area where some manufacturers stamped the year it was made. IV[60] from 1921 onwards. I have a No.1 Mk III British SMLE.303 I already ordered a book/manual on the rifle that shows how to tell certain details by the markings but i would like to look up my specific rifle by serial number. 4 Mk I used to develop the No. Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. 4 Mk. A plug was welded in place forward of the chamber, and a window was cut in the side of the barrel. The British military switched over to the 7.6251mm NATO round in the 1950s; starting in 1970, over 1,000 of the No. GWF is free to use so please support the Forum. 4 Mk IV, The LeeEnfield in military/police use today, THE .256 INCH BRITISH: A LOST OPPORTUNITY by Anthony G WilliamsArchived 6 June 2013 at the Wayback Machine, Special Service Lee Enfields: Commando and Auto Models by Ian Skennerton. If no one knows, then is there a place where I could go to figure out the manufacture date? Like the No. 32 and its bracket (mount) were matched and serial numbered to a specific rifle.[54]. Enfield Envoy, a rifle intended for civilian competition target shooting and Enfield Enforcer, a rifle fitted with a Pecar telescopic sight to suit the requirements of police firearms teams. An Afghan mujahid carries a LeeEnfield in August 1985, Canadian Rangers, photographed in Nunavut, June 2011. RSAF ENFIELD CONVERSIONS 1941 - 1942 - The first batch of conversions. www.skennerton.com/NewBooks.htm [29] Rifles with some or all of these features present are found, as the changes were implemented at different times in different factories and as stocks of existing parts were used. [64], After the Second World War, the Rifle, No. The rest of the story is that this carbine was accepted into New Zealand service in 1899 and was assigned inventory number 1909. Rifles so marked were assembled using parts from various other manufacturers, as part of a scheme during the First World War to boost rifle production in the UK. II and Mk. 2 3 rd Edition, Lee-Enfield No.4 and No. 32 telescope progressed through three marks with the Mk. A MK1 MLE in 7-9/10 condition which is average for what I`ve been seeing over the last couple of yrs are in the range of $1500- $2500. 1 Mark III and No. The main deficiency of the rounds at the time was that they used heavy, round-nosed bullets that had low muzzle velocities and poor ballistic performance. 2/1s (Mk. ), of Toronto, Ontario, produced a run of several thousand survival rifles based on the No. I've just purchased a 1942 stamped Lee Enfield rifle which has a number 93L8939. [46] The No. At some point just after the Sino-Indian War of 1962, the Rifle Factory Ishapore in India began producing a new type of rifle known as the Rifle 7.62 mm 2A, which was based on the SMLE Mk III*[87] and was slightly redesigned to use the 7.6251mm NATO round. 4 MK. III* LeeEnfields were used by the. There were three main batches of conversions. 10. The No. Then, the work was assigned to Holland & Holland, the famous British sporting gun manufacturers, which converted about 23,000 No. It was never an official military designation but British and Commonwealth troops serving in the Burmese and Pacific theatres during World War II had been known to unofficially refer to the No. 4 Mk I Long Branch aperture sights, LeeEnfield No. Truth be known about Enfield serial numbers is simply, the serial number was used more for production counting than any other reason. Note 2: GRI stands for 'Georgius Rex, Imperator' (Latin for 'King George, Emperor (of India)', denoting a rifle made during the British Raj. I (T) and No. Serial numbering of the .303in Lee-Enfield Rifle No.4 Serial numbering of the .303in Lee-Enfield Rifle No.4 This material was extracted from official papers. What should I mark down for insurance value? Your rifle had the left sidewall ground down, quite roughly in spots. India: In service during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. )[36], The SMLE design was a relatively expensive long arm to manufacture, because of the many forging and machining operations required. Only SMLE Mk III* rifles are known to have been assembled under this program. Original Long Branch years are on the left sidewall of the receiver. 303 british identification 303 british rifle identification 303 british serial number search 303 british serial numbers The insurance guy I use has no clue on guns, I have asked before. Enfield Serial Number Discussion in '. This is one reason the bolt closure feels smooth. The No. [40] Towards the end of the Second World War, a bladed bayonet was developed, originally intended for use with the Sten gunbut sharing the same mount as the No. Israel: used during the first few years of independence. Your rifle,even with your 252 serial number does not mean it is pretty rare. The No. The Commando units of the British military requested a suppressed rifle for killing sentries, guard dogs and other clandestine operational uses during the Second World War. [14] LeeEnfield rifles are used by reserve forces and police forces in many Commonwealth countries, including Malawi. So it is possible to have a Long Branch serial applied to a Maltby, or a Maltby serial applied to a Faz. 2 Mk. Such rifles would have 5-digit serial numbers with either an "E" or an "F" serial number prefix, and the serial number would be stamped on the rear of the bolt handle and on the bottom of the fore-end, as well as on the receiver ring. During the 1960s, the British Government and the Ministry of Defence converted a number of LeeEnfield No. 4 and No. And to get that, the rifle has to be original original original, matching numbers through out, not mismatched sported or refurbished. This feature was removed on the Mk III* rifle. LeeEnfields are very popular as hunting rifles and target shooting rifles. Military equipment, such as the Lee-Enfield rifle, are often found with letters, numbers, codes, runes and symbols stamped, etched, scratched, embossed, pressed or branded into the wood or metal. Grizzley1 Registered Joined Aug 31, 2014 The left side of the receiver is marked "No.4 Mk2 / UF 55 A17380". Matching serial numbers. 4 Mk 2. The serial number is DA22567A, above the serial number it says NO.4 MK1 F (FTR) that is all the markings I can really see on the gun and I was wondering what year the rifle was made, the model it is, & how much it is worth? III* rifles by adding a heavy target barrel, cheek-piece, and a World War I era Pattern 1918 telescope, creating the SMLE No. 4 Mk 1 rifles so upgraded were re-designated No. Poland: used by the Polish Armed Forces in the West, Portugal: used by the Portuguese Expeditionary Corps, during the First World War. 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