The first and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good. Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. All HS2 and NPR services to be branded as Intercity Express. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Some franchise brand names are good, such as Trans Pennine Express, but perhaps those longer distance brands might be lost to one all encompassing GBR brand. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. It may not display this or other websites correctly. JavaScript is disabled. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. Goodbye. The pleasure's all mine. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. Our railways play a fundamental role in supporting the economic, environmental and social achievements of the country. For this new venture a new livery - a paler shade of blue than Rail Blue, with three stripes of white, red and grey - was created with Class 47 No.47573 The London Standard painted in the new livery specifically for the launch ceremony. For Station signage that is supposed to be functional and informative above all else, I don't see too much wrong with this. We need a sense of professionalism and togetherness, one branding brings that. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. I would say GWR (single colour) is a far better branding package than Avanti (3 colours). Quick reference Livery Guide for Nameplates and transfers available in 4mm/00 scale. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. The rebranding of British Railways to British Rail on 1 January 1965 was coupled with the introduction of an entirely new national livery. Official Description. For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. It might have the operator identified in a small way too. It's the name of the island ffs. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. But it invites an obvious question: what is to be done about it? On the other hand Avanti's branding is awful - there is no "Italian flair" in it at all. Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. Existing leases of stations to devolved transport authorities will continue. I reckon a simple logo like the one youve depicted will be what we see. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. Roofs were Dark Grey and underframes originally brown, but later black. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. If you run across land borders you're going to get it. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. The British Isles is a the collection of European islands consisting of Great Britain, the island of Ireland, Isle of Man and the northern islands that are part of Scotland. [14] While this livery had much in common with the "Large Logo" version of Rail Blue livery, including the yellow cabs and larger logo and numbers on the bodyside, the main colour was grey rather than blue. Apple Green. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. Bare minimum, low effort. I suspect not many. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. The attachments illustrate this. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. All Class 42 "Warship" class diesels were delivered in green but some Class 52s were delivered in maroon to match the then-standard coaching stock livery. The BR Saint & TPO Livery Pack adds additional liveries to the GWR Saint & TPO add-on, enabling you to recreate realistic travelling post office operations in the British Railway era. Whatever its failings and they were multitude branding was one thing British Rail took seriously and was remarkably good at. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Once we lose TOC branding I certainly think service categories need to return, if only on the Dutch basis of them only describing service patterns rather than anything else. This competition aimed to identify a place with a rich railway heritage, strong links to the national network and significant public support, while creating a great opportunity to promote the location as the proud home for the start of a new era in Britains railways. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. It may not display this or other websites correctly. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? I suppose they are quite bland. However many people were not happy with the loss of the traditional "historic" regional colour schemes as used by the former private companies. Judging from the signage and station painting they will choose something somewhere between boring and ugly, and we will be stuck with it everywhere, for ages. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have decided to take a step back towards a national rail network with the launch of Great British Railways (GBR). Today I would like to make a rather general suggestion rather than something specific. Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? The creation of Great British Railways (GBR) has been dubbed as the end to "a quarter-century of fragmentation" and a means to provide "accountable national leadership". In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. What possible negatives are there to none enthusiasts? [4] Normal passenger service franchise mechanisms were amended, transferring almost all revenue and cost risk to the government, effectively 'renationalising' those services temporarily. One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. For locomotives used on internal British Rail duties, a separate livery of a plain darker grey was created. You are using an out of date browser. No.90021 in revised Railfreight "triple grey" livery, with Railfreight Distribution sector markings. You are using an out of date browser. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. Creating a separate thread for this as it's quite a big topic, potentially. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? In which case, why do car manufacturers put effort (and substantial amounts of money!) Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The infrastructure was privately owned and operated by Railtrack from 1994 to 2002, when it was renationalised and transferred to Network Rail. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? Of course it's possible to do better, but I'd argue there are bigger priorities as long as the signage is fit for purpose. From 1956 maroon (similar to crimson lake) was adopted as the standard colour for coaching stock, with corridor coaches lined and non-corridor plain initially: later on all stock was lined. Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; It really wouldn't. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. We badly need that on the visual mess that is the railway. Not sure but I was also thinking of the winding up arrangements that would've taken place at privatisation i.e. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. It still has to look good decades from now. I agree I think the NR logo in the circle looks better, but GBR is such a mouthful - its just latent fear of the British Rail brand. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). Not the terms I would have used but I see where you might get that impression. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. (60163 still carries this livery in 2018) Black. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? "Great" means "large", not "very good". [7]. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. They are an intercity operator. 3 Apr 2022 . The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. Likes Received: 1,930. There are conflicting view on Britain versus Great Britain. The Great British Railway - and please, spare us the flag-waving - will incorporate Network Rail (renationalised in 2002 after privatised Railtrack collapsed), ticketing and awarding operator . Different NSE style local/commuter networks round the country. From 1974, some DMU sets, after being refurbished, were painted white with a wide blue band under the windows and full yellow ends. [5] As Rail Blue was introduced, the last locomotive recorded as being outshopped in a previous livery was Class 43 D838 Rapid which left Swindon Works in August 1968 in maroon. It really does look dire. In all of your concepts the Rail Symbol (double-arrow) is far too large for the accompanying lettering, if you're looking to be guided by the original design rules. JavaScript is disabled. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. Something timeless. The Blue Pullman sets retained their livery of Nanking Blue (albeit with full yellow ends) until 1969 when they were repainted in the reversed grey and blue livery. I can only see negatives. The double arrow is still overused, though. 1948 -. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Well Id have thought it might be GBR Northern or GBR Southern. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. This grey panel finished just short of the end of the coach leaving a small amount of Rail Blue which then continued round onto the end of the coach. [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. That's a different argument (which I disagee with but that's not for this thread). I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. 19th September, 2019. Feb 1, 2020. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . European paint code RAL5020 ("Ocean Blue") is a good match to Rail Blue. From July 1956 the Southern Region began using a 'coaching stock' green that was somewhat darker than the malachite green colour of the old Southern Railway and this extended to former Southern vehicles as well as Mk1 stock. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. The name is still awful though and far too long. [citation needed]. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. Later regional variations included some interesting changes for the Class8P passenger types in particular. On 10 June 1986, British Rail launched Network SouthEast, an organisation designed to cut across the traditional regional boundaries and deliver a co-ordinated train service for London and the surrounding region. Plus what is one persons opinion of a great livery will be different to the next. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. This error in colour identification comes from an article and question published in a Model Railway Magazine in the 1950s, where the responding editor made the error, and it has frequently been repeated since then. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. The livery derived its nickname from a perceived resemblance to the internal appearance of a Jaffa Cake. Swiss rail. [8] The review had been launched in September 2018 and was led by Keith Williams. Following the introduction of the Advanced Passenger Train in 1983, a similar livery to the APT's (dark grey on the upper body, and light beige on the lower, with two stripes of red and white separating them) was experimentally applied to two HST sets and the coaches operating the Gatwick Express service between London Victoria and Gatwick Airport. for some form of co-branding. Can you only be professional if every rail person works in the same uniform? It may not display this or other websites correctly. This page was last edited on 28 January 2023, at 18:28. JavaScript is disabled. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. Boris Johnson has announced that Britain is to have a new public rail operator, Great British Railways (GBR), in the biggest shake-up of the country's trains since privatisation a quarter. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. I'm inclined to disagree. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and its xenophobic, imperialist undertones make me want to vomit. it remains to be seen if their just gonna bite the bullet and conform the entirety of rolling stock on the GBR network to a nice Blue and Cream livery. A railway works best as a single unit. All other brands (SE, Southern, Thameslink, SWR, GWR, TfW, Merseyrail, Overground, Crossrail, GA, c2c, Scotrail) remain as they are. Thats a bit like saying everything has been invented, no need for anything more. Great Northern split, with the Moorgate services becoming part of the London Overground brand and the Kings Lynn route becoming part of the LNER brand. Cross Country merged with EMT to form a brand called Midland Connect. Why do most people go for a car that is mostly all one single colour. JavaScript is disabled. Not so much the modern LNER though. This includes transport, with the first Union Connectivity Review being published earlier this year. Originally a trading brand of the Railway Executive of the British Transport . Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. [14] By 16 March (the deadline for submitting expressions of interest), 42 towns and cities had expressed an interest in hosting GBR's headquarters. As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. [3] Goods (freight) services are operated by a number of companies, the descendants of those created during the 1990s privatisation. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? We will probably get something like this Shorthand and in general parlance yes, but Great British Railways will be a brand that the DfT will want to get out there sooner rather than later, even if it is just a vinyl on top of existing TOC names. its going to be at least 6 months before we even get a branding document, and IMO over 2 years before we get any new liveries or Humbrol paints. I really quite like that now. You are using an out of date browser. Great British Railways (GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain,[1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Or the awful corporate blue BR? . The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and it's xenophobic, imperialist undertones me me want to vomit. [8][9], A fortnight before the WilliamsShapps Plan for Rail was unveiled, the Department for Transport gave notice of a 6.5million contract for Deloitte up to February 2023 as its "strategic change delivery partner: rail reform programme". On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Great British Railways: The Williams-Shapps Plan for Rail (print version) Ref: ISBN 978-1-5286-2465-7 , CCS0321182446 05/21 , CP 423 PDF , 55.8 MB , 112 pages Order a copy Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. It's the name of the island ffs. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. Western. This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. Introduced originally by the Great Western Railway, the Travelling Post Office would set out from London in the dead of night and deliver . It will become a single familiar brand with a bold new vision for passengers - of punctual services, simpler tickets. A commonly mistake to make, but one that can easily upset the locals! Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. Clearly "Great British Railways" does include a bit of "retro" in the manner than gWr does, for example. RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L The special saloons and a few other special coaches were also repainted in chocolate and cream but regular former GWR coaches carried maroon. One of the worst liveries they ever carried, never seen a HST look so poor. Old does not necessarily = bad. Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway . Rail Express Systems was the sector of British Rail responsible for transport of mail and parcels traffic. Press J to jump to the feed. White letters on a navy background is the way to go. Historic fact is that Roman Britain was England & Wales and the name Great Britain was adopted once Scotland joined, even though today we may refer of GB as just Britain. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. One thing that might work, though, would be to drop the full text from the red band and just have a subtle double arrow on the right hand side in that. But Beatties second charge is more interesting. Bland, cheap, unimaginative. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? 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